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For those of you who have been following along, this has been one of the most discussed issues since the RDSP was first launched in December of 2008. The availability of the RDSP across Canada has brought into focus the absence of comprehensive supported decision-making vehicles in the Canadian provinces, other than BC (Representation Agreement). Below you will see an excerpt from our June ActionPLAN which details the policy reforms we are looking into that may provide solutions to the guardianship issue. To see a copy of our full ActionPLAN click here.
Excerpt from PLAN`s June edition of ActionPLAN – Jack Styan
The Issue
The RDSP has highlighted the limitations of our current legal system, which regulates decision-making for vulnerable adults. Aside from BC, families who wish to assist an adult family member to open an RDSP are limited to adult guardianship. Most people who are not able to manage their own RDSP would also be precluded from assigning a Power of Attorney. Jurisdictional issues between the federal and provincial governments are an added complication.
Most families and people with disabilities that we have spoken with find adult guardianship lacking on one or more counts, including:
- Cost;
- Loss of legal status;
- Indignity of being deemed “incapable”.
We have been working with the Federal Government, financial institutions, and other disability organizations to find a suitable solution. It’s a complicated issue to try and solve because of the many considerations involved.
A solution needs to include the following principles:
- Where people are able to manage their RDSPs, they should be entitled to manage their own affairs
- Where people are not able, the best people to act as account holders are people who they trust, who know them well and who are actively involved in their lives
- When it is necessary to grant authority to manage their RDSPs to another, the powers granted should be as targeted as possible
- People should remain involved in any decision-making process to the extent that they are able
- There needs to be a simple method of naming alternates or reassigning authority
- Any mechanism should be easily implemented and administered.
Solutions:
Reforming guardianship laws across the country would be the best and most far reaching solution as the positive impact of the reforms would be more far- reaching than measures that affect just the RDSP. This, however, is a long term solution and we want an immediate solution that will give people immediate access to the RDSP. The most promising solutions include:
1. Interpretation of “Legal Representative” by Canada Revenue Agency to include de facto guardian or next-of-kin. An interpretation which broadens the understanding of “legal representative” beyond powers of attorney and traditional adult guardianship (tutor, curator, trustee, committee, etc.), would enable a broader group of people to act on people’s behalf immediately.
2. Creating a new federal process that allows people to assign someone to act as the “trustee” of their RDSP, without a test for contractual competence, would enable transfer of responsibility for managing an RDSP without requiring guardianship.
There are several situations where a trustee of benefits can be appointed in a relatively informal and streamlined process. The processes protect people’s assets by assigning fiduciary responsibility.
Actions:
Look for more ongoing information on our blog on www.rdsp.com and add your thoughts and comments.
Raise your concern with both federal and provincial representatives when the opportunity arises. The concern about adult guardianship as an inappropriate method with which to assist people to handle their financial, personal or health care decisions is not well understood. We need people to know that it is a problem.


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July 16, 2009 at 3:04 pm
Aine
Thank you all for drawing attention to this issue. Our family member’s disability makes it impossible to set up an account for him. He is technically “financially competent” but the reality is that his parents have to help him with his finances. One of the major symptoms of his illness is paranoia, so he would resist all attempts by his parents to control his finances. We do not want him declared legally financially incompetent now as he may improve with time. Also he spends any money he gets right away without concern for expenses. We could not set up an RDSP for him because he would likely take all the money out and then would not have the money to pay back the government part, so he would end up in debt.
Medications or improved treatment in the future could completely change his life in the future, but in the meantime, years are going to go by without us being able to build a secure financial future for him through this terrific program.
So thanks again.
July 17, 2009 at 5:52 am
Doug Brodhead
Hi Aine,
There is some progress on this issue, so we will make sure to keep everyone posted as we go along. There are many people who are in the same situation as you, so we will be doing everything we can to make sure that this issue is resolved as soon as possible.
July 18, 2009 at 6:49 pm
Lillian
Yes, opening up a RDSP for someone who may not be cognitively competent without going the route of guardianship or P of A is problematic…if there was a Representation Agreement in place, would that suffice to open up a RDSP on behalf of the person with the disability?
Thank you.
July 20, 2009 at 6:08 pm
Doug Brodhead
Hi Lillian,
In BC we have seen many families set up an RDSP through the Representation Agreement, and most financial institutions have indicated that the Representation Agreement will suffice to open an RDSP on behalf of the person with the disability.
July 23, 2009 at 7:57 am
Lillian
Hi Doug,
I sympathize with Aine as I also know of other parents who also are hesitant about encouraging their adult children with either a brain injury or a psychiatric condition to open up RDSPs due to fears of them withdrawing the money out at a moment’s notice and thus ’setting them up for a big fall!’ In these particular cases, there is no Power of Attorney or representative agreement in place.
In cases where the government contributions is greater than what the individual has contributed, can the account not be locked down for the duration of the 10 yr holdback rule so that individuals is unable to access the funds at all during that period? I know that this sounds simplistic but it would solve the matter so that people don’t lose the bonds/grants or get into debt by withdrawing what is not theirs yet. It just seems a little strange that the banks would allow them to withdraw money out of their accounts since there is a 10 yr holdback rule.
July 27, 2009 at 7:16 pm
Dennis
HI Lillian
I do not believe that the banks would allow anyone to withdraw all the money from an RDSP if the 10 year hold back time had not elapsed. I believe that they must remit the hold back amount to the government and only cash out the contributions.
October 10, 2009 at 10:44 pm
Derrick
I have searched online, but can not find what the proper steps are for setting up adult guardianship in Ontario. Would any one here who has filed for adult guardianship be able to let me know what the procedure was, how long it took to complete and how expensive it was?
October 15, 2009 at 8:27 pm
Doug Brodhead
Hi Derrick,
If you get a chance, take a look at this website. It has some good information on guardianship in Ontario.
http://www.attorneygeneral.jus.gov.on.ca/english/family/pgt/incapacity/guardian_process.asp
July 23, 2009 at 4:25 pm
Doug Brodhead
Hi Lillian,
We’ve been looking at the potential of setting up a pooled fund for people who might be in the situation you describe, which would restrict them from withdrawing until the full 10 year holdback has been surpassed. I agree, it is an issue for some people that may hinder them from setting up an account. I’ll make sure to keep you updated as we find out more.